Curse

ajc2123 · Nov 23, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Ok so I just did a good amount of HM canthan missions with a couple friends. Guess I'm finally into titles. I ran this a lot instead of Cryway because 1 I was afraid afflicted explosions + death nova minions would wipe out EVERYTHING with the AoE spell. Also I was the only one willing to do cryway since my friends didn't like to use a Me for a secondary.

this focuses on single target damage, but QUICK single target damage. Only thing it needs is a couple more conditions/hexes which usually a sabway will have plenty of (we used that almost all the time).

[Mantra of Recovery][Air of Superiority][Energy Tap][Ether Signet][Optional]["You Move Like a Dwarf!"][Necrosis][Resurrection Signet]

Sometimes I put in empathy in the other slot, Usually I stick Wandering Eye or Clumsiness for a little AoE damage. The attributes are 10 fast casting 10 inspiration, then 11+1 of illusion or domination depending on what my optional skill is. You could bring [Power Return] and go full Fast casting/inspiration if you wanna be able to interrupt spells at a good rate.

You could also switch out [Mantra of Recovery] for [Lyssas Aura] If you really want unstopable (if you aren't stripped) energy. But usually Ether signet + air of superiority recharging everything and adding energy is good enough.

['You Move Like a Dwarf!"] + [Necrosis] will help spike down a healer. Otherwise just spam the 2 whenever possible.

So yea, if you don't want to do cryway for some reason and need single target fast damage, this is an ok build.

The thing that separates this from Necros spamming it is It takes the mesmers fast casting attribute and increases the DPS of the build along with almost uninterpretable speed. Yup even AI gets messy sometimes.

However, the Necromancer has the ability of infinite energy with soul reaping which saves skills slots for more utilities.

This is just for the Mesmer out there that need a bit of help.

I Will Heal You Ally · Nov 23, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37

I'm not that good with mesmers but this looks terrible to me, but then again that's just my opinion

kostolomac · Nov 23, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

The lack of CoP or AP is extremely disturbing. AP can replace energy tap and the elite and you have skill slot free. CoP isn't needed on multiple people , it easily rapes PvE just on one player.

The build is nice , but you should find a different skill than leech signet , interrupting in HM is only good if the target is dazed or the one doing the interrupting is a hero.

upier · Nov 23, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

My girl Gwen runs something like this on my necro since I haven't gotten to Livy yet:
[build=OQREA2kFfnEzsRd8JEROkB9A]
(Suffering because of the shitty hero AI - otherwise I'd go with stuff like SoF or RH.)
Basically it's an interpretation of your build that works on a hero.

Would it work better on a necro?
Hell yeah. Drain Ench would become Rip and Power Drain would become Power Return/Spike for starters. And the ability to use runes would just push it to new heights.
Still - a decent way to use the mesmer hero since it doesn't have skills that would warp it's fragile little mind.

ajc2123 · Nov 24, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Oh shit, I meant to put in [Ether Signet] Instead of [Leech Signet]

My bad.

Also its very energy consuming to for a mesmer to keep spamming CoP and echoing it.

If your a Mesmer in HM and want to do 80+ dmg every 1.34 seconds without worry of echo/arcane echo getting stripped, or afflicted causing massive death to other allies from Cry of Pain, then this is ok. Otherwise use the cry of pain if you want. Clumsiness/wandering eye/ echo is also an ok cheap Cry of Pain without getting sunspear title up if you want.

Tyla · Nov 24, 2008, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

My girl Gwen runs something like this on my necro since I haven't gotten to Livy yet:
[build=OQREA2kFfnEzsRd8JEROkB9A]
(Suffering because of the shitty hero AI - otherwise I'd go with stuff like SoF or RH.)
Basically it's an interpretation of your build that works on a hero.

I ran something similar, but I don't trust the heroes with many 10E skills without energy management like Soul Reaping or Ether Renewal.

[discord][enfeebling blood][putrid bile][parasitic bond][power drain][cry of frustration][no skill][no skill]

Last skills depend on the area. Onto the topic at hand, though.

In my opinion you should push this towards Discordway.

[mind wrack][cry of pain][necrosis]["you move like a dwarf!"] / [air of superiority][enfeebling blood][no skill][no skill][no skill]

The rest of the bar can be anything. Echo so you can have 2 CoP's, Necrosises or YMLaD's, Expel Hexes for a cheap and powerful hex removal, Pain of Disenchantment for a pretty strong enchantment removal, HEV for a hex removal that deals damage and takes down enchantments, even Stolen Speed (my favourite Mesmer elite) can be put on this bar. Keep in mind the majority of your attributes are also free here.

Smarty · Nov 24, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

The build I've been using on Smarty for 4-man VQ is one I got from modifying the sabway curses necro: [build=OQRDA5kHTtM2BlBjB3gyl7OYcA] (Originally the atts had to be 6 11 12 to get +4 energy regen but since the buff to Lyssa's Aura I've been able to rejig it to do more damage and cast even faster. I suspect the buff has made it less efficient on a mesmer than on a necro, but what the hell, it works for me and mindless spamming is relaxing sometimes.) Combine with a Stunning Strike W/P, a sabway MM and a HB monk and watch those yellow numbers fly. (Thanks for the inspiration, Productivity.

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Painbringer · Nov 24, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

I sound like a Broken Record but honestly this is NASTY = [assassins promise] [arcane conundrum] [cry of pain] [auspicious incantation] don’t usually need to many skills after this but for the tougher foes [ebon vanguard assassin support] and [pain inverter] help it’s the only way to go

ohh... you said necro in that case you could go with some AOE

[Ether nightmare] or [suffering] [Feast of corruption] [Desecrate Enchantments] [Necrosis] [drain enchantment] [ether feast] [Auspicious incantation] [poisoned heart] (just for something different

) or [mark of pain] or [resurrection signet]

Or maybe this

[Ether nightmare] [cry of pain] [Auspicious incantation] [Arcane Echo] [Feast of corruption] [Power drain] [ether feast] [resurrection signet]

weretoad · Nov 24, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05

this may sound stupid, but not going aoe in pve because you don't want 2 just isn't an option. aoe is what you want in pve. if you need to kill of single targets use PI, or finish him, or if it's a boss might wanna run ww. if you want to kill single targets as a build then do it quickly and rapidlly, use a fast spiking build and then ap to reuse it quickly and machine gun everyone down.

mesmer in pve is simple.
aoe
ap with spike.

those are the best 2 options.

ajc2123 · Nov 24, 2008, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by weretoad

this may sound stupid, but not going aoe in pve because you don't want 2 just isn't an option. aoe is what you want in pve. if you need to kill of single targets use PI, or finish him, or if it's a boss might wanna run ww. if you want to kill single targets as a build then do it quickly and rapidlly, use a fast spiking build and then ap to reuse it quickly and machine gun everyone down.

mesmer in pve is simple.
aoe
ap with spike.

those are the best 2 options.

I just explained why I didn't use AoE

Afflicted explosions

Fun for everybody

Then someone will say "thats what good aggro control is for"

H/H doesnt always, have god aggro control even with flagging .

illidan009 · Nov 29, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

Sorry but Energy Tap is a crap skill. Take power drain at least if you want moar e management. Everything else seems reasonable though.

MegaVolti · Nov 29, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19

[Frustration][Cry of Pain][Wandering Eye][Clumsiness]

Wins PvE. 4 free skill slots for energy management and anything you want as Necromancer skills (or any other secondary or more PvE skills or whatever).

MegaVolti · Nov 29, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19

sry browser hickup

dasmitchies · Dec 14, 2008, 02:00 AM // 02:00

Discordway +curses + Lyssa's Aura + Wasterl's worry + YMlad and Finnish him = GG. Shiro 2 min Lich 4min Abaddon 4 min = GG. Monster's melt in your aggro not on your hands.

Axel Zinfandel · Dec 18, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05

Mesmers in PvEs soul viability is to abuse PvE skills, AP, and fast fasting and create a shitton of damage, and you aren't doing that.

So I'm gonna say no.